Given the fact you’ve been in the army, and study Brazilian jiu-jitsu, how important is discipline in your life?
“Discipline was almost forced on you because you couldn’t get anything done unless you did a thing. It’s harder for most people to understand discipline today, because everything is handed to you. It was a lot easier for me growing up because there were walls and doors between me and the goal. Discipline didn’t come easier, but there was stimulus to develop it.”
Before you became a musician, you were the guy who stood at the back of venues sniping at bands. Were you a reluctant musician because you knew there’d be people like you in the audience ready to heckle?
“Yes, there’s that, but I think it was also fear: you’re afraid you’ll become that guy onstage. I’ve always assigned characters to people to go, ‘What role describes you?’ There’s probably no better role to understand my wiring than Jack Nicholson’s character in the film As Good As It Gets: I open my mouth in the wrong way, but I do want to be a better man. I just can’t help myself sometimes – it’s like Tourette’s.”
You used to perform comedy at the Diamond Club in LA and appeared as a “metal douche” character. Did this introduce you to the idea of playing with different guises?
“It did, but you also have to bring a piece of yourself to those characters, provided you didn’t become the characters (laughs).”
What are the character ‘notes’ for your guise in A Perfect Circle?
“I took cues from English performers for the A Perfect Circle look, where it’s over the top, and for some people it’s mysterious, while for others it’s, ‘What the fuck is that guy doing?’ It’s a fine line: embracing that English thing where you almost have to become a caricature to become something relevant.”
Speaking of that fine line: Eddie Izzard says there’s a sliding scale of cool, where it’s cool, cool, cool, wanker…
“(Laughs) The ‘wanker-meter’ is something you have to embrace. If you’re going to put on make-up, wear wigs and stupid clothes, you have to understand that the ‘wanker’ comments are coming. And I’m okay with that – it’s part of the character.”