How was it being in the studio sober?
“Nerve-wracking, it was so different. I was so used to being drunk because that would take away my inhibitions; I can be myself, I can freak the fuck out and it won’t matter. Now I’m sober, fuck. Most of the art that came out [previously], I was on something that breaks down that filter, so I had to learn how to deal and be creative again, but I was going through it. Brendan helped me, he was really quick. We did that record in four months, but that’s the kind of producer he was.”
How did the music progress between Follow The Leader and Issues?
“We kept experimenting: we added loops and shit, more of a synthy kind of thing. I started doing interludes and shit, which was me and Brendan – we called our band Tron because we’d only use things that had the word ‘tron’ in it, like a melotron or orchestron. When I was doing those I was playing drums and he was doing the keys or melotron, and I’d do the interlude songs in between, which was really fun – it was just us being creative. Over the years, we’ve been progressing from record to record; the whole secret of that shit is that we never thought about it – we just did it. Don’t let yourself be your worst enemy or doubt yourself."