Do you think there's any substance to the accusations that bands like Graveland or Bölzer have links to national socialist movements?
"I mean, how can you call Okoi [Thierry Jones] from Bölzer a fascist when his dad is black? People are not aware of what they are doing or saying. I know these guys, and they are genuine artists, and they're pure as fuck when it comes to politics: they're apolitical. Most of these bands are apolitical. I kind of gave up on just being an advocate. I don't want to do that because the world is stupid these days, and it's just getting worse and worse. So I'm like, 'Fuck it.' Fuck it, because it's just wrong… But then again, if you ask me, I disagree with a lot of stuff that is happening out there.
"And then again, as much as I'm a supporter of minorities and I'm friends with minorities, it triggers the antagonists as well. Whenever I make a post about pro-gay rights, it immediately puts me in 'the gay section'. Which again, is wrong. I'm not gay, and if I was gay, you'd know it. If I was transgender, you would fucking know it, because that's my nature. I'm not here to lurk in the shadows. I'm here to be who the fuck I am. Like being honest with myself, and with fans, and with the world. That's what I am. But what I dislike to the maximum is the fact that people just see black and white. That's all they see. And I always advise our fans or whoever is asking, 'Guys, please, just stop being judgmental. Just to think twice before you throw accusations.' It's so easy to throw shit at other people these days. Do they deserve that? In most cases, I guess not. So do some investigation. Talk. Think. Fucking wait with your language. Wait with your wording, because sometimes it's too much. So maybe I didn't wait with my wording when I made my post about Antifa, okay? And I admit that.
"But then again, a few days ago, I came across Nick Cave's interview about that. And guess what? I'm reading that, like, 'Wow!' and I'm sorry that I can't explain myself so well, but he said exactly what I was trying to say. I just use a more straight-up, more radical or whatever expression. But he said exactly what I mean."
What did you take away from the Nick Cave interview?
"Well, basically, he brought that Antifa thing up, and he said that they're basically acting like the ones that they fight with. They are using the same methods and the same means. What differentiates you from actual fascists? That's what he said. I was reading that, and now I'm wondering how many people will attack Nick Cave? I guess not many, because he's too much of an icon. And it'd be fuckin' surreal and ridiculous to call Nick Cave a fascist. But just because I come from the genre that is niche and is not mainstream, it's much easier to bring that stuff up.
"But it's super unjust you know, and just stupid. Imagine that you're not drinking. You don't drink any alcohol. But you go to Grandma's birthday, and everyone is making a toast. You go like, 'Okay, just this one time' – you're making one toast. And all you hear behind your back is, 'He's an alcoholic.' That's how people react these days. That's wrong. That's very unjust."