With 2019’s Final Transmission, it felt like Cave In might be waving farewell. Arriving eight years after previous LP White Silence, and 15 months on from the death of longtime bassist Caleb Scofield, its 31 minutes of polished-up demo recordings seemed to be the work of musicians tying up loose ends, more interested in helping the family of their late friend than plotting a path forward for their band.
Not quite three times further round the sun, however, guitarist/vocalist Stephen Brodsky, his fellow six-string Adam McGrath and drummer John-Robert ‘JR’ Conners have welcomed Converge bassist Nate Newton permanently into the fold, and they’re ready to write their next chapter with seventh album Heavy Pendulum.
“The excitement is real,” grins JR, bouncing off the walls of his home and keen to work out some of that energy in the open air of a fresh northeastern spring afternoon. Stephen, meanwhile, is already out, in his car, scouting a location for their next music video up in Beverly, Massachusetts. There’s an urgency and a relish of life pulsating through even the darkest moments of the incredible, epic (71-minute!) record they’ve just unveiled, and it spills into their high spirits today. So much so, in fact, that even patchy signal on their Zoom call can’t dampen the mood.
“I can’t tell if you’re breaking up…” grins the drummer as one of Steve’s answers glitches into awkward silence. “What’s that, we’re breaking up the band?!” the frontman jabs back in jest as his screen snaps into motion. “Okay, I guess this will be our last record then. Thanks, Kerrang!”
Many fans presumed that Final Transmission would be a parting statement from Cave In. Did you ever anticipate the cycle for that album energising you to make this one?
JR: “I don’t know if we’d thought that far ahead. For me, Final Transmission was about having all of those tracks done as they were when Caleb was playing on them. I wasn’t thinking whether or not we were going to continue. That just wasn’t a question for me at that point.”
Stephen: “Our mission statement at the time Caleb passed away was that we had to do everything we could to help his family get on its feet. We were working through our own grief, too. We knew that putting the wheels back on the band would be a good vehicle for raising some money for the Scofields and a good way for us to get together and spend time together as friends in the wake of such tragedy.”
So when did you begin to feel inspired to make new music?
Stephen: “I guess it was when we started playing shows and reconnecting with our catalogue, and realising that there is so much Caleb in all of this. He had been in the band for almost 20 years. He was such a crucial element in defining not just our sound, but the decisions that we made and who we are as people. He was as much of a brother as anyone could be. It didn’t make sense to have put all the work into putting the wheels back on it just to abandon it. Caleb was pretty specific about what he had in mind when we were working on what would become Final Transmission. The two big things when it came to doing this record were recording in a studio – which we hadn’t for years, and which we were supposed to on that last album – and staying true to Caleb’s original vision, focusing on the thing that sets Cave In apart from our contemporaries, writing stuff that is catchy, has hooks and is focused on melody while keeping it spacey and atmospheric.”